One question: why are we having yet another dialogue session, after feedback that they are completely ineffective (read: sham)?

Do we really need to give the management and councillors yet another opportunity to defend their stand against the students?

This isn’t about 413’s blog, or about eating on the first floor . Nor is it the uniform. It’s a much larger problem.. the way the school is being run.

Students aren’t being listened to. When we express our opinions (I cite the first floor rule as an example), they are dismissed. I’d like to think that the views of the student body are valued in our school. Sadly this is not the case.

I do realize that as students, we have to take into consideration the POV of the management. But it is (supposed) to go both ways – so have they been listening to us?

The panel discussion was a prime example of failure. Points raised by students were ignored. The school went on the defensive/offensive/oppressive.

Even though it’s plainly obvious that certain points made by the management are total bull, we have no choice but to accept them. Because yes, authority always wins.

(Also, before you pick on other people’s grammar, take a look at your own. “Like as you mentioned”?)

You don’t understand. It’s not an issue of collars and sleeves.

Have you read Animal Farm?
We have Benjamins and Boxers.

We have consequence and inconsequence.

Regarding your assertion that the uniform is part of our culture and history I would like to remind you that in the beginning our uniform was long sleeved and it didn’t have the red logo on the top left of your shirt. If we want to respect the trademark as what you purport to do by not modifying the school uniform as the absence of sleeves are a trademark, then I suggest… why not go back to long sleeved tops? As you have mentioned this uniform is part of our culture, history blah blah so in what way does this make it ’superficial’? Things like our uniform, which we are forced to wear everyday and becomes part of our identities… I believe you cannot dismiss them with the wave of a hand as ’superficial’. In that sense the wearing of a seperate top by the councillors has a implicit meaning: superiority. I think you can say the same for designer bags, spectacles, etc. I’m not against the wearing of a seperate blouse for this group of people, though. I mean most of them are nice humble people.

The uniform is a part of Nanyang’s culture and history. Like as you mentioned, it is a Nanyang trademark. I think you can be concerned about larger issues in the school rather than something as superficial as the uniform.

And well don’t forget, Councillors are students and your friends too – Maybe you just need to talk to one of them to know. Unless, things like the uniform actually affect your relationships.

“Rationale? Appreciate”. And oh, appreciated.

Speaking of the uniform, I also do not see how Councillors are not directly segregated from the rest of the student population. Reasons? 1) Attire; 2) Treatment (I believe all would know from whom). I even more do not understand how presenting them with a long-sleeved blouse with shabbily-rolled-up sleeves allow them to represent the school. After all, it is the “cheena” sleeveless blouse that the public can identify as the NY trademark?

Ankle socks were a godsend. But I’d like to end off by quoting a certain teacher who has commented on many students’ socks:

“Ankle socks are not supposed to be worn at the ankles.”

Rationale? Appreciate.

Hey, I mean hh no harm too. No hard feelings.

I’m not against fake dude! I’m just saying something about creativity. XDXD

I don’t passionately advocate the “live and let live” idea much. To an extent. Kind of, sorta thing. Sometimes, it can be categorised as just turning your back on, or even avoiding the issue.

But life is as it is. It WILL resurface. It WILL, if you don’t deal with it.